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Why Jews Don't Believe in Jesus

Topic: Why Jews don't Believe in Jesus
 

<Name: An Inquisitive Person

Dear Rabbi,

Why don't Jews believe in Jesus? Doesn't it say in the Psalms, "They pierced my hands and feet"? Doesn't Isaiah say, "Behold a virgin shall give birth"?


  1. Scriptural References

    In order to understand anything in the Torah one must look at the original Hebrew. You will see that the Christians distorted, changed and misinterpreted many of the Hebrew words in order to fit things into their beliefs. The two places that you mentioned are good examples. In Psalm 22:17 the Hebrew states "hikifuni ca'ari yaday veraglay" which means "they bound me (hikifuni) like a lion (ca-like ari-lion), my hands (yaday) and my feet (ve-and raglay-my feet). The Christians translate this as "they pierced my hands and feet". Nowhere in the entire Torah, Prophets and Writings do the words ca'ari or hikifuny mean anything remotely resembling "pierce".

    In Isaiah 7:14 the Hebrew states "hinei ha'almah harah veyoledet ben" "behold (hineih) the young woman (ha - the almah- young woman) is pregnant (harah) and shall give birth (ve-and yoledet-shall give birth) to a son (ben)". The Christians translate this as "behold a virgin shall give birth." They have made two mistakes (probably deliberate) in the one verse. They mistranslate "ha" as "a" instead of "the". They mistranslate "almah" as "virgin", when in fact the Hebrew word for virgin is "betulah". Aside from the fact that if you read the context of that prediction you will see clearly that it is predicting an event that was supposed to occur and be seen by king Achaz who lived 700 years before Jesus!

  2. Genealogy

    He was not descended from the House of David. According to Jewish law, tribal identification comes from the father's side, being Jewish, from the mother's side. According to Matthew 1, Joseph was descended from David (Although there are many contradictions between his genealogy there and that listed in Luke, however according to the same text, Joseph did not have sexual relations with Mary, therefore Jesus was not related to Joseph, and not a descendant of King David.

    Three answers to this problem are given in classic Christian sources:

    1. The genealogy is that of Mary - This is inadequate, since if he is claimed to be the Jewish messiah, and according to Jewish tradition he must be descended on his father's side, Mary's genealogy is irrelevant.

    2. He was adopted by Joseph -According to Jewish law, adoption does not change the status of the child. If an Israelite is adopted by a Cohen, (A descendant of Aaron the High Priest), the child does not become a Cohen, likewise if a descendant of David, adopts someone who is not, he does not become of the tribe of Judah and a descendant of David.

    3. It doesn't matter, he was a spiritual inheritor of King David - If it doesn't matter, why do Christian scriptures spend time establishing his genealogical pedigree? And if he is claimed to be the Jewish messiah, then according to Jewish tradition it does matter!

  3. Messianic Predictions

    The main predictions concerning the Messiah are that he will bring peace to the world, gather the Jewish people from their exile to the land of Israel and rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. After Jesus' appearance, the Temple was destroyed, the Jews were exiled all over the world and we have not even had one day of peace in the past 2,000 years. (Many of the wars in fact were started and fought by followers of Jesus) These events are enough to show that he was not the messiah.

    The main Christian responses to these objections are:

    1. The Second Coming - First of all, we find this to be a contrived answer, since there is no mention of a second coming in the Jewish Bible. Second, why couldn't G-d accomplish His goals the first time round. Most importantly, the second coming idea is just an attempt at answering an obvious question but it certainly does not constitute proof of messianic claims.

    2. There is peace within his followers hearts - That is wonderful for them, but does that help the victims of the Inquisition, the Crusades, the Hundred Years War, the First World War, the Second World War etc. In each of the events that I mentioned most if not all the combatants, the violent oppressors and torturers where people who claimed to be followers of Jesus. And is peace in the heart a fulfillment of "swords into plowshares etc."

  4. Messiah's Qualifications

    Messiah is a prophet, a scholar and a pious king. Jesus made a prediction that "The time is fulfilled, the kingdom of God is at hand." (Mark 1:15) That was 2000 years ago, has the kingdom of God come? Do you call the holocaust, Pol Pot and Stalin a world in which the kingdom of God has come? Jesus was not a great scholar - one of the requirements of the Messiah. Was Jesus a king? He was not anointed as king by a prophet (as was the rule in Jewish kings), he was not appointed by any judicial body as a leader and he did not rule over the Jewish people nor was he accepted by them. He was arrested, tortured and killed by the Romans like a common criminal. He had no army or government. The answer to my question is an obvious, "no."

      1. The Trinity

        The Christian idea of a trinity contradicts the most basic tenet of Judaism - that G-d is One. Jews have declared their belief in a single unified G-d twice daily ever since the giving of the Torah at Sinai - almost two thousand years before Christianity.

        The trinity suggests a three part deity: The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost (Matthew 28:19).

        In Jewish law, worship of a three-part god is considered idolatry; one of the three cardinal sins for which a person should rather give up his life than transgress. The idea of the trinity is absolutely incompatible with Judaism.

      2. Physical Manifestation

        Christianity believes that G-d came down to earth in human form, as Jesus said: "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30).

        The Torah states that G-d cannot not take any form.:

        "You will not be able to see My face, for no human can see my face and live" (Exodus 33:18-20)

        "You did not see any form on the day G-d spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of fire" (Deuteronomy 4:15)

        As little as we may know about G-d's nature, Judaism has always believed that G-d is Incorporeal, meaning that He assumes no physical form. G-d is Eternal, He is Infinite; above time and beyond space. He cannot be born, and cannot die.

        Christianity denies the eternal relevance of Torah Law, basing the concept of the New Testament on a mistranslation of a verse in Jeremia.

        In Jeremia 31:30 the Hebrew states: "Henei yamim baim Neum Hashem VeCharati Brit Chadash" They translate: "Behold, days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new Testament with the house of Israel "

        "Brit" does not mean Testament. Throughout Scripture "Brit" means covenant. See for example Genesis 17:2, 15:18 Exodus 24:8, Leviticus 26:42, Numbers 25:12.

        It is a fundamental principle of Judaism that the Torah received at Sinai will never be changed nor become obsolete. This concept is mentioned in the Torah no less than 24 times, with the words:

        "This is an eternal law for all generations"

        (Exodus 12:14, 12:17, 12:43, 27:21, 28:43, Leviticus 3:17, 7:36, 10:9, 16:29, 16:31, 16:34, 17:7, 23:14, 23:21, 23:31, 23:41, 24:3, Numbers 10:8, 15:15, 19:10, 19:21, 18:23, 35:29, Deuteronomy29:28)

        It is absurd to accept the Divine origin of the Torah yet deny it's eternal relevance. Judaism is a religion of action; it has always taught that through performance of the commandments one declares the belief of the heart. To dispense with the legal body of the Torah and reduce it to a book of morals would cut it down to less than half it's size. Can this really be the meaning of those words an eternal law for all generations?

        For a lengthier discussion on this subject I suggest the books, "The Real Messiah," by Aryeh Kaplan, "Faith Strengthened" by Isaac Troki, "You Take Jesus, I'll Take God"and "Their Hollow Inheritance" by Michoel Drazin. (available at Jewish bookstores everywhere)


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    In Their Own Words - Why Jews do not believe in Jesus (Yehoshua)
        What do Jews or Israelis honestly think about Yehoshua or why is it that few ever convert to believing in he? Well, thanks to wicked preachers (from the past until now), foul evangelists, corrupt authors that were canonized in our present-day bible, (namely Luke and Paul), evil church heads in the far past (the abominable Catholics) and the crusaders, who were never a part of the REAL CHURCH, or followers of Yehoshua, it's pretty easy to see why and to understand why Jews think in the manner they do when it comes to Yehoshua. For the real church is made up of followers of Yehoshua, the orthodox Rabbi and for that matter the only true Rabbi who taught his followers to obey all the law of Moses, even under heavy persecution. Yehoshua taught this because obedience to the law will always be your righteousness, for he will judge all people one day by these laws. So even with this simple insight you can see that not many people are saved at all, at least not now, 4/09/2009. In this page, you will see the very reasons Israelis rarely come to the truth, in their own words.
        Even though what you will read here are the many excuses that Jews have for not believing in Yehoshua, you can still, nonetheless, see their truthful finger-pointing to the many evils of those that DO believe in Yehoshua (that is believers that do not know the truth about Yehoshua's faith or who he actually was and is or know the very meaning of the word, Moshiach / Messiah, in Judaism for that matter). However, this does not hide the facts of what their prophets said and wrote about the Messiah in their Tanach. Nor does it excuse them from seeking out the truth versus what they have been doing for nearly 2000 years; that is listening to vile sages. They also read the foul works of these sages through the Talmud and other writings that claim Yehoshua was a son of a harlot versus just reading the Tanach itself. Which would show them the outright truth, which in turn would cause them to convert and know that Yehoshua is the Moshiach of Israel.
        Most of the believers in Yehoshua might be extremely ignorant of the facts of Judaism. As well as in regards to the meaning of the Messiah, nor do they have enough discernment in regards to the false and wicked doctrines of Paul who led the world astray with the wicked doctrine of grace without obedience. Nor do they have any walk or form of Judaism and so on (which will earn them a place in hell). This still is not a legitimate reason for them to deny looking into their very own scriptures versus "writing everything off", because they have been conditioned for so long to listen to their own ignorant sages. Moreover, because they do not seek out their own Tanach, they assume that the ministers who are preaching in Jesus/Yehoshua's name are representing Yehoshua correctly, when they are not, and so they get a totally false impression of him. For Jewish people see these preachers for what they are and how they walk and what they teach and it is a far cry from the orthodox Judaism especially that of Yehoshua and his ancestors, who was much more righteous than any Pharisee, Scribe or Sage could ever be.
        For those of you that do believe in Yehoshua and you find this website or this page offensive - DON'T! Because facts are facts and if you honestly do, you need to take a better look at yourself and compare yourself to the teaching of Jesus the Savior, not Paul the so-called apostle. Because either you are a pure follower of Jesus which should inline you with orthodox Judaism (not Hasidic however - that is purely traditional); or you are a follower of men and their gentile faiths introduced through Paul or someone else. And so you will never convert an Orthodox Jew to Yehoshua. The fact of the matter is that Gentiles are easy to convert, they practically believe anything, so you cannot use that argument if you should dare.
        In truth, what would Orthodox Jews convert to? It would be the pure Torah, not one tainted with 'rich' traditions. Likewise and foremost, they would have to finally believe that Yehoshua is their Messiah. Who was the Son of David, because Miriam (Mary), the maiden (almah in Hebrew), was the daughter of a man who was the offspring of King David, thus also making him David's son. Because if a virgin girl by reasons of a miracle becomes pregnant, that child would be listed with her, the maiden's family, whoever her male parent is. So it is in this case, he is the Son of David, because Miriam was the daughter of David, even though 'Matthew' and 'Luke' list Joseph's line, which has no bearing whatsoever in this case. This is also an evil error of the gospel writers.

    Here is their article that was copied from their website:

    Why fellow Jews, in their own Words, do not believe in Yehoshua
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    I will comment on this author's words sometime soon. It is now 4/09/2009 at 5:55 AM. But as you can see, the author looked to preachers for his insight on the faith of Yehoshua vs. their own Tanach. For you do not even need the Gospels and the other writings to know that he is the Messiah. Just be honest and read the words of the Prophets and the stories of the Tanach for they tell about him all over the place. Nonetheless, I will commit most likely within a week so please check back. It will be easy to tear this person apart. Even if you read all of this website, you will see that this site has already debunked his words without writing anything extra.

    Maregaal

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